Talk:Masao Kurenai

Kamen Rider Kiva or Kamen Rider New Kiva
Would Masao count as Kamen Rider Kiva or Kamen Rider New Kiva? Technically, since he isn't using Kivat-bat the 3rd's powers but instead, Kivat-bat the 4th, I would argue that it is the latter. To note, Kotaro Nogami uses the same belt as his grandfather, yet he is classified as Kamen Rider New Den-o instead of just Den-o as well.Zakitaro (talk) 15:02, November 8, 2018 (UTC)