Thread:RokuEiyū/@comment-24977527-20190208053312/@comment-29576068-20190208201731

Destiny Shin wrote: For Duke, it is because there is no source saying Dragon Energy is overwhelming Lemon Energy, it should be just an Arms Change. For example, you cannot say Pine Arms is the power up of Orange Arms, so as it. Unless it is like Gaim Arms that stated to be strongest form.

Consider Houdini as a power up, Suika Arms can be a power up that count as final, however, as Jimber take the place of Upgrade Form, Suika will consider as main form only. Now, you remove Dragon Energy arms? Gaim Jimber is upgrade but for Knuckle, it is final form though. Then Suika should be at least upgrade form of Knuckle. I see Houdini is boost much stats, only behind Goemon, Gimm and Sanzo. And why Leangle's Jack form is both super form and final form?